The Second Concerning the Son. I. Since I have by the power of the Spirit sufficiently overthrown the subtleties and intricacies of the arguments, and already. The Fifth Theological Oration. On the Holy Spirit. I. Such then is the account of the Son, and in this manner He has escaped those who would stone Him, passing. Oration 1 · Oration 2 · Oration 3 · Oration 7 · Oration 8 · Oration 12 · Oration 16 · Oration 18 · Oration 21 · Oration 27 First Theological Oration Oration 28 Second.
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And for what reason? The second, narrow way leads to life eternal. Though the nature and essence of God are undiscoverable in this life, Nazianzus thought we would know them in the afterlife. For what marvel is it if God is greater than man?
But, he says, who in ancient or modern times ever worshipped the Spirit? These are the transition from idolatry to the law and then from the law to the gospel.
Now, if we should determine to take these words as said in contrast with the Father, and not with the imaginary gods, we lose the Father by the very terms which we were pressing against the Son.
Thank you for gregry good works, may they be a blessing to you as well! Nazzianzus perhaps it would not be wrong to assume this also, that by the art of His love for man He gauges our obedience, and measures all by comparison with His own Sufferings, so that He may know our condition by His own, and how much is demanded of us, and how much we yield, taking into the account, along with our environment, our weakness also. Winslow, The Dynamics of Salvation: This success confirmed for both Gregory and Basil that their futures lay in administration of the Church.
Wherefore God did not think it behooved Him to benefit theologicxl unwilling, but to do good to the willing. John of Damascus On the Orthodox Faith. And with us Humanity is one, namely the entire race; but yet they have many gods, not One, just as there are many men.
St. Gregory the Theologian – Theological Orations
He died about 25 Januaryalthough the exact date of his death is unknown. Every attempt to explain this in terms of creaturely reality is bound to fail. For the Father was not, nor were any of the things that were not made. They who say and teach these things, and moreover call Him another Paraclete in the sense of another God, who know that blasphemy against Him alone cannot be forgiven, and who branded with such fearful infamy Ananias and Sapphira for having lied to the Holy Ghost, what do you think of these men?
The Theologcial cannot be expressed in words. For how could there be a God of Him Who is properly God? For if you conceive in this manner of the meaning of To the only wise God, theoligical Who only has Immortality, Dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto, or of to the king of the Ages, immortal, invisible, and only wise God, then the Son has vanished under sentence of death, or of darkness, or at any rate condemned to be neither wise nor king, nor invisible, nor God at all, which sums up all these points.
The preceding set of arguments ad absurdum was to show that “the divine nature cannot be apprehended by human reason. The arrival of the emperor Theodosius in settled matters in Gregory’s favor. O, how beautiful and mystical and kind.
And you may make them twins if you like, or the one older and the other younger, since you are so very fond of the bodily conceptions. For that the same thing should be at once greater than and equal to the same thing is an impossibility; and the evident solution is that the Greater refers to origination, while the Equal belongs to the Nature; and this we acknowledge with much good will.
What precedence is there for according the Spirit divine honors? Oration 30, Oratio theologica quarta: Garland Publishing,details Gregory of Nyssa ‘s adherence to the doctrine, while making no mention of Theolgical. We do not chit-chat about divinity.
For in ordinary language an image is a motionless representation of that which has motion; but in this case it is the living reproduction of the Living One, and is more exactly like than was Seth to Adam, or any son to his father.
I will just mention one fact of our own nature which every one knows, and then I will pass on to another part of the subject. For we have given names according to our own comprehension from our own attributes to those of God.
The Theological Orations of St Mazianzus Nazianzen were delivered at a time when the Church in Constantinople was wracked by theological controversy revolving around the identity and nature of God. Again, where do you get your Unbegotten and Unoriginate, those two citadels of tregory position, or we our Immortal? We get such extra-biblical words as “unoriginate,” “unbegotten” and “immortal” all from the same place, that is, from passages that imply them.
St Gregory the Theologian: The First Theological Oration | Eclectic Orthodoxy
Supplements to Vigiliae ChristianaeVol Revised and edited for New Advent by Kevin Knight. It is suitable to one laying down the law as to names, not to one who is asserting the truth. But since if hold so very close to the letter although you are contending against greogry letterpray take your demonstrations from this source. It may, however, be worth while, and will be consistent with what has been already said, instead of passing over without remark the actual Titles of the Son there are many of them, and they are concerned with many of His Attributesto set before you the meaning of each of them, and to nazkanzus out the mystical meaning of the names.
I had forgotten to include it when I first published my blog article yesterday. I think I will pass over other points, though I might bring forward many from animal history, some generally known, others only known to a few, of what nature has contrived with wonderful art in connection with the generation of animals.
For no one can tell the origin of God, that otherwise would be older than God. If ever there was a time when the Father was not, then there was a time when the Son was not. They always win the argument, even when they are wrong. A creature of God. Gregory is also concerned with the impact that frivolous and uncivil theological discourse may have on others, especially on those hostile to the faith. This is not like Greek polytheism, the sophisticated version of which recognized one Godhead behind the plurality of gods.
Nazianzus proposed a way out of this false dilemma: And now we have both seen and proclaim concisely and simply the doctrine of God the Trinity, comprehending out of Light the FatherLight the Sonin Light the Holy Ghost. So you see how completely your argument from connumeration has broken down, and is refuted by all these instances.